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Отговори на защитниците: Мухаммад и Аиша (преглед на кода)
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Коранът не е биография на Мухаммад. По име той е споменат само четири пъти в Корана.<ref>[{{Reference archive|1=http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_times_was_the_name_of_the_holy_prophet_Muhammad_mentioned_in_Quran|2=2011-10-24}} Колко пъти е споменат светият Пророк в Корана?(<small>Англ.</small>)] - Answers.com, accessed 24-ти Октомври, 2011г.</ref>Коранът не е исторически разказ и без хадисите и [[Сира|Сирата]] (които са приети от мнозинството мюсюлмани по света и от ислямските учени) нямаше да ги има Петте стълба, а ислямът, такъв какъвто е познат на мюсюлманите, щеше да бъде неразпознаваем и щеше да има малко<ref>Much like the hadith literature and prophetic biographies, the early non-Muslim references to Muhammad that do exist seem to paint a very negative picture of him. For example; the ''Doctrina Jacobi'' portrays him as a bandit, and the Mandaeans' ''[[Haran Gawaitha]]'' depicts him as the "Son-of-Slaughter, the Arab" converting "people to himself by the sword."</ref>, ако не и никакви, исторически доказателства, че е съществувала някога личност, позната като Пророка Мухаммад. Поради тази причина те не могат да бъдат пренебрегнати. Освен това самият Коран позволява педофилията в стих 65:4.<ref>According to the Qur'an, one can marry and have sexual intercourse with a child who has not yet reached her menses. In {{Quran|65|4}}, the Qur'an addresses divorce and how long one should wait for remarriage after the divorce of females who are too old or too young to menstruate, in Arabic called ''iddah'' (the stipulated waiting period). So we are told in this verse normally women should wait three monthly periods, but if she's too old or too young to menstruate then you should simply measure by three moon phases. From {{Quran|33|49}} it is understood that the Iddah is required only if sexual contact has occurred within the marriage. If a woman is not touched by her husband, she should not have to observe any waiting period at all. Hence for a child who has not yet reached her menses having to observe the Iddah must mean that sexual intercourse had already taken place within her previous marriage. For further details, see: [[Pedophilia in the Qur'an]]</ref> | Коранът не е биография на Мухаммад. По име той е споменат само четири пъти в Корана.<ref>[{{Reference archive|1=http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_times_was_the_name_of_the_holy_prophet_Muhammad_mentioned_in_Quran|2=2011-10-24}} Колко пъти е споменат светият Пророк в Корана?(<small>Англ.</small>)] - Answers.com, accessed 24-ти Октомври, 2011г.</ref>Коранът не е исторически разказ и без хадисите и [[Сира|Сирата]] (които са приети от мнозинството мюсюлмани по света и от ислямските учени) нямаше да ги има Петте стълба, а ислямът, такъв какъвто е познат на мюсюлманите, щеше да бъде неразпознаваем и щеше да има малко<ref>Much like the hadith literature and prophetic biographies, the early non-Muslim references to Muhammad that do exist seem to paint a very negative picture of him. For example; the ''Doctrina Jacobi'' portrays him as a bandit, and the Mandaeans' ''[[Haran Gawaitha]]'' depicts him as the "Son-of-Slaughter, the Arab" converting "people to himself by the sword."</ref>, ако не и никакви, исторически доказателства, че е съществувала някога личност, позната като Пророка Мухаммад. Поради тази причина те не могат да бъдат пренебрегнати. Освен това самият Коран позволява педофилията в стих 65:4.<ref>According to the Qur'an, one can marry and have sexual intercourse with a child who has not yet reached her menses. In {{Quran|65|4}}, the Qur'an addresses divorce and how long one should wait for remarriage after the divorce of females who are too old or too young to menstruate, in Arabic called ''iddah'' (the stipulated waiting period). So we are told in this verse normally women should wait three monthly periods, but if she's too old or too young to menstruate then you should simply measure by three moon phases. From {{Quran|33|49}} it is understood that the Iddah is required only if sexual contact has occurred within the marriage. If a woman is not touched by her husband, she should not have to observe any waiting period at all. Hence for a child who has not yet reached her menses having to observe the Iddah must mean that sexual intercourse had already taken place within her previous marriage. For further details, see: [[Pedophilia in the Qur'an]]</ref> | ||
==== | ====Целта на Аллах за този брак не е била сексът, Аиша е била велик учител, който е разказал важни хадиси==== | ||
Няма смисъл от един ислямски брак (никях), ако няма секс между двойката. Ако 54-годишният Мухаммад не е искал да прави секс с 9-годишната Аиша, но е искал само да я задържи в дома си, то той лесно би могъл да я осинови като внучка. Той вече е имал един осиновен син. | |||
И ако трябваше да приемем този брак като резултат от предсказанието на Аллах, това все още не може да обясни защо Той не може да предвиди, че милиони момичета днес ще трябва да претърпят [[Коран, хадиси и учени: Педофилията|педофилски бракове с деца]], които директно използват отношенията между Мухаммад и Аиша като оправдание.<ref name="University of Houston">Sheik Abdul-Aziz Ibn Baaz, supreme religious authority of Saudi Arabia: "''...If she is married without her permission, by threat or coercion, then the marriage is not valid. The only exeption is in the case of the father and his daughter who is less than nine years of age. There is no harm if he gets her married while she is less than nine years old, according to the correct opinion. This is based on the messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) marrying Aisha without her consent when she was less than nine years old, as is stated in authentic Hadith...''" - [http://web.archive.org/web/20040216151301/http://www.uh.edu/campus/msa/articles/fatawawom/marriage.html Questions Related to Marriage/ Is it allowed for a father to force his daughter to marry a specific man that she does not want to marry?] - Muslim Students Organization of the University of Houston</ref><ref name="Sheikh Hamoud">Sheikh Hamoud Hashim al-Tharihi, general secretary of the Vice and Virtue Committee and member of the Islah Party in Yemen: "''Because this happened to the Prophet, we cannot tell people that it is prohibited to marry at an early age''" - [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7711554.stm Child marriage and divorce in Yemen] - Jenny Cuff, BBC, November 6, 2008</ref><ref name="Mufti Fazlul">Mufti Fazlul Haque Amini: "''Banning child marriage will cause challenging the marriage of the holy prophet of Islam, who also married minor Ayesha, when she was just eight years old. The new law [seeking to ban child marriages] initiated by the current government [of Bangladesh] will put the moral character of the prophet into controversy and challenge. Islam permits child marriage and it will not be tolerated if any ruler will ever try to touch this issue in the name of giving more rights to women.''" - [http://www.weeklyblitz.net/1386/islamist-leader-threatens-of-waging-jihad <!-- Backup link from Jihad Watch {{Reference archive|1=http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/04/bangladesh-islamic-cleric-threatens-jihad-if-child-marriage-is-banned.html|2=2011-04-23}} -->Islamist leader threatens of waging Jihad] - Weekly Blitz, April 20, 2011</ref><ref name="Imam Sani">Former governor and current senator of Zamfara State, Nigeria, Ahmed Sani Yerima: <BR><BR>"''Child marriage in Islam is permissible. In the Koran there is no specific age of marriage...[If the government imposed new laws against child marriage] There will be violent conflict from the Muslims, saying that 'no, we will not accept this, we'd rather die than accept something which is not a law from Allah.'''" - {{cite web|url= http://www.wunrn.com/news/2008/11_08/11_24_08/112408_nigeria.htm|title= Nigeria Child Brides-Broken Lives |publisher= Times Online|author= |date= November 28, 2008|archiveurl= http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wunrn.com%2Fnews%2F2008%2F11_08%2F11_24_08%2F112408_nigeria.htm&date=2013-06-15|deadurl=no}} <BR><BR>And again in 2013: <BR><BR>{{cite web|quote=As was expected, former governor and current senator of Zamfara State Ahmed Sani Yerima reiterated his support for marrying off underage girls Saturday saying he could give out his six-year old daughter in marriage if he so wished. Last Tuesday, the Senator successfully prevented an amendment to the second part of Section 22 of the constitution by the Senate, which dwells on affirming someone as of age once the person is married, though the person could be lower than 18 years in age. He answered his critics in an online publication saying he did not deserve such criticisms. Here is the full statement: "Nigeria has many uncountable problems and none of them is early marriage. As a matter of fact early marriage (is) the solution to about half of our problems. For those who wonder if I can give my daughter(s) out in marriage at the age of 9 or 13, I tell you most honestly, I can give her out at the age of 6 if I want to and it’s not your business. This is because I am a Muslim and I follow the example of the best of mankind, Muhammad ﺻَﻠَّﻰ ﺍﻟﻠَّﻪُ ﻋَﻠَﻴْﻪِ ﻭَﺳَﻠَّﻢَ..."|url= http://thenigeriatoday.net/i-could-marry-off-my-six-year-old-daughter-if-i-so-wished-senator-ahmed-yerima-replies-critics/|title= I Could Marry Off My Six Year Old Daughter If I So Wished, Senator Ahmed Yerima Replies Critics|publisher= The Nigeria Today|author= |date= July 21, 2013|archiveurl= http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http%3A%2F%2Fthenigeriatoday.net%2Fi-could-marry-off-my-six-year-old-daughter-if-i-so-wished-senator-ahmed-yerima-replies-critics%2F&date=2013-07-22|deadurl=no}}</ref><ref name="Sheikh Mohamed Ben">Sheikh Mohamed Ben Abderrahman Al-Maghraoui: "''The marriage of nine-year-old girls is not forbidden because according to the Hadith (the Prophet Mohammed's sayings), Mohammed married Aisha when she was only seven-years-old and he consummated his union when she was nine.''" - [{{Reference archive|1=http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=27880|2=2011-10-25}} Moroccan theologian: Muslim girls can wed at nine] - Middle East Online, September 15, 2008</ref> | |||
====The hadiths do not say Muhammad had sex with Aisha when she was 9. They have been poorly translated==== | ====The hadiths do not say Muhammad had sex with Aisha when she was 9. They have been poorly translated==== | ||