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Дори ако приемем тази tu quoque [[Логическа заблуда|логическа заблуда]] като валиден аргумент, все пак остават неразрешени сериозни проблеми. Първият от тях е фактът, че страницата New Advent Catholic Encyclopedia не казва, че Мария се е омъжила за Йосиф, когато е била на 12 години.  
Дори ако приемем тази tu quoque [[Логическа заблуда|логическа заблуда]] като валиден аргумент, все пак остават неразрешени сериозни проблеми. Първият от тях е фактът, че страницата New Advent Catholic Encyclopedia не казва, че Мария се е омъжила за Йосиф, когато е била на 12 години.  


What it actually says, after warning readers once again that the stories are "unreliable", is that Mary was 12 to 14 at the time of the choosing of candidates, and the Annunciation (the announcement by the angel [[Gabriel]] to the ''virgin'' called Mary, that she would conceive and become the mother of Jesus)<ref name="Annun-age">[{{Reference archive|1=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annunciation|2=2011-10-24}} Annunciation] - Wikipedia, accessed October 24, 2011</ref> took place two years later.<ref name="Catholic Encyclopedia 2">"''It will not be without interest to recall here, unreliable though they are, the lengthy stories concerning St. Joseph's marriage contained in the apocryphal writings. When forty years of age, Joseph married a woman called Melcha or Escha by some, Salome by others; they lived forty-nine years together and had six children, two daughters and four sons, the youngest of whom was James (the Less, "the Lord's brother"). A year after his wife's death, as the priests announced through Judea that they wished to find in the tribe of Juda a respectable man to espouse Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age. Joseph, who was at the time ninety years old, went up to Jerusalem among the candidates; a miracle manifested the choice God had made of Joseph, and two years later the Annunciation took place. These dreams, as St. Jerome styles them, from which many a Christian artist has drawn his inspiration (see, for instance, Raphael's "Espousals of the Virgin"), are void of authority; they nevertheless acquired in the course of ages some popularity; in them some ecclesiastical writers sought the answer to the well-known difficulty arising from the mention in the Gospel of "the Lord's brothers"; from them also popular credulity has, contrary to all probability, as well as to the tradition witnessed by old works of art, retained the belief that St. Joseph was an old man at the time of marriage with the Mother of God.''" - [{{Reference archive|1=http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08504a.htm|2=2011-10-24}} St. Joseph] - Charles Souvay, The Catholic Encyclopedia. Vol. 8. New York: Robert Appleton Company, 1910. 24 Oct. 2011</ref> This would make Mary 14 to 16 at the time of her marriage, not 12, or 9, as was the case between [[Muhammad and the Clinical Definition of Pedophilia|Muhammad and Aisha]]. She would have been a teenager of child-bearing age, not a pre-pubescent pre-teen child.
Всъщност се казва, след още едно предупреждение към читателя, че историите са „ненадеждни“, следното Мария е била между 12 и 14 - годишна по времето, когато е избирала свой кандидат, а Благовещението (вестта от архангел Гавриил към девицата, наречена Мария, че тя ще зачене и стане майка на Иисус)<ref name="Annun-age">[{{Reference archive|1=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annunciation|2=2011-10-24}} Annunciation] - Wikipedia, accessed October 24, 2011</ref> се е случило две години по-късно.<ref name="Catholic Encyclopedia 2">"''It will not be without interest to recall here, unreliable though they are, the lengthy stories concerning St. Joseph's marriage contained in the apocryphal writings. When forty years of age, Joseph married a woman called Melcha or Escha by some, Salome by others; they lived forty-nine years together and had six children, two daughters and four sons, the youngest of whom was James (the Less, "the Lord's brother"). A year after his wife's death, as the priests announced through Judea that they wished to find in the tribe of Juda a respectable man to espouse Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age. Joseph, who was at the time ninety years old, went up to Jerusalem among the candidates; a miracle manifested the choice God had made of Joseph, and two years later the Annunciation took place. These dreams, as St. Jerome styles them, from which many a Christian artist has drawn his inspiration (see, for instance, Raphael's "Espousals of the Virgin"), are void of authority; they nevertheless acquired in the course of ages some popularity; in them some ecclesiastical writers sought the answer to the well-known difficulty arising from the mention in the Gospel of "the Lord's brothers"; from them also popular credulity has, contrary to all probability, as well as to the tradition witnessed by old works of art, retained the belief that St. Joseph was an old man at the time of marriage with the Mother of God.''" - [{{Reference archive|1=http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08504a.htm|2=2011-10-24}} St. Joseph] - Charles Souvay, The Catholic Encyclopedia. Vol. 8. New York: Robert Appleton Company, 1910. 24 Oct. 2011</ref> This would make Mary 14 to 16 at the time of her marriage, not 12, or 9, as was the case between [[Muhammad and the Clinical Definition of Pedophilia|Muhammad and Aisha]]. She would have been a teenager of child-bearing age, not a pre-pubescent pre-teen child.


Another problem is that the theological significance of Joseph and Muhammad to the Christian and [[Islam|Islamic]] faiths are incomparable (i.e. the logical fallacy of [[False Equivalence|false equivalence]]). Unlike the Muslim view of Muhammad, Christians do not consider Joseph to be an [[Uswa Hasana|uswa hasana]] (excellent model of conduct). Joseph's moral character holds no importance within Christian theology. He could have been insane and it would not matter to a Christian.
Another problem is that the theological significance of Joseph and Muhammad to the Christian and [[Islam|Islamic]] faiths are incomparable (i.e. the logical fallacy of [[False Equivalence|false equivalence]]). Unlike the Muslim view of Muhammad, Christians do not consider Joseph to be an [[Uswa Hasana|uswa hasana]] (excellent model of conduct). Joseph's moral character holds no importance within Christian theology. He could have been insane and it would not matter to a Christian.